tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post3477038909674100504..comments2023-09-29T03:58:05.019-06:00Comments on Karma-Dharma-Bhutadaya: “God” is Really the Lord of Hell and “the Devil” is Really God . . .?Jeffrey Charles Archerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01838766714000350169noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-5955977394037318232021-05-03T19:35:25.862-06:002021-05-03T19:35:25.862-06:00Hi
A few important points
1) have you read bhagav...Hi <br />A few important points<br />1) have you read bhagavatam? <br />It describes an western coastal( goa suburbs) king by name of Arhat. <br />2) this Arhat is a monster, who gets his mind high on religion like drugs without any real enlightenment but fake show all the while. He is said to create jainism ( yeah this purana bashes the beginning of jains). So this arhat is also said to spoil the discriminative abilities of common man and create delusion in society. He is later banned by vishnu to live in desert and come out during kali yuga. <br />2) a very important figure of 20th century India was sai baba( sage) of shirdi. <br />He in a conversation with a devotee, once accused the devotee of hating Islam. <br />Devotee said it's definitely worth it hating this motherload of all evil activities. <br />Sai baba replies that" Yes, reality is bad but retorts that you devotee already worship Islamic gods before Islam. <br />Devotee confused and asks how. <br />Baba asks " Don't you worship the hand God" <br />Devotee proclaims yes and that hand symbol is a ancient feature of jaina religion. So your arhat was basically either abrahman or Mohamad. It doesn't matter who is who but that purana gives a wonderful description of the kind of society such reality distorting religions can create. <br />See how easy clues are found in hindu readings regarding history of world. <br /> You can look into the hand symbol of jainism and maybe find some clues within islam in connection. Some form of arhats original religion must have been the inspiration of Mohamad or wherever it started from( zoroaster)?) Vigtyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784748360886270029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-73969143568301607542021-05-01T20:54:19.394-06:002021-05-01T20:54:19.394-06:00The ShrastiKarta is Lord Vishwakarma or PrajapatiThe ShrastiKarta is Lord Vishwakarma or PrajapatiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09646716492786293688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-75203389066300888332021-04-30T19:41:00.974-06:002021-04-30T19:41:00.974-06:00Good article, however this article has not given r...Good article, however this article has not given reasons for <br /><br />1. formation of new religions, be it abrahmic religions or Buddhism and Jainism in india.<br />2. Later religions or bhakti movement( which did not culminate in religions other than sikh) , in India.<br />3. We should not look for the simalarity in religions, we should also look for the differences arised, and why it was required.Pankajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12834345638336832090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-59285630593624076992021-04-30T01:25:18.375-06:002021-04-30T01:25:18.375-06:00Brahma is nothing but atom carbon which once had f...Brahma is nothing but atom carbon which once had five valency and was at that time not capable of creating organic life. It lost one valency i. e. On head later on and became capable of creating organic life. Hence the srashtikarak creator. robbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637204855753305512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-37075379949039747702021-04-25T19:40:03.431-06:002021-04-25T19:40:03.431-06:00Sounds interesting.Sounds interesting.Whitewitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929337229772926571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-17517937875596002362021-04-25T19:16:55.714-06:002021-04-25T19:16:55.714-06:00Very interesting read. Thank you!Very interesting read. Thank you!Whitewitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929337229772926571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-39628210983037052212020-10-24T13:52:28.869-06:002020-10-24T13:52:28.869-06:00@jay - I'll attempt a response that is bound b...@jay - I'll attempt a response that is bound by my current state of consciousness/degree of understanding mainly to point out for your consideration a few differences even if only in interpretation and from a wholistic POV from having studied many religions and compared the similarities and differences. First, it must be noted that what the Soul is and what Its viewpoint is are things that no two people necessarily agree on, so that makes it hard to determine exactly what you indicate when you say "ACCORDING TO THE SOUL'S DESIRE." I personally wouldn't use that word as a thing that Soul is even capable of or uses as it is a thing that the human uses as well as the various lower bodies which IMO makes it a lower aspect of being, not necessarily one of Soul.<br /><br />One can easily say that Satan is or isn't any of the negative creations based on differences in traditions, their stories, and the various attributes given to each, but as a concept I think the differences become much more vague and irrelevant. I personally see it more from a Sikh point of view where the Negative pole that rules the lower planes is not God, but works for God serving ITS purpose, which also demonstrates the reason for the existence of such a being under an "all loving God(head)." <br /><br />This comes down to the importance of the individual learning from direct experience rather than from teachings or stories told that one never actually experiences. The point being that the Anami so loves each Soul that IT send it to be incarnated and to go through both karma and dharma as It learns so that It may progress through various stages of development and levels of consciousness until it eventually becomes God Realized and is able to consciously serve and work with God. Satan is merely one piece of the process that plays a part in the development of each Soul. In the Biblical context, Satan (or as Sikhs call it, Kal Niranjan) is the same being that they of lower mind worship as their god, not realizing the dual nature of that being, YHWH, such as in the Bible, being an angry or jealous "God."<br /><br />Obviously once Soul develops beyond duality, the pure spiritual planes become available as It continues Its spiritual growth toward the end goal. In some cases the desire to grow and reach the highest state possible is that basic "desire of Soul" you mentioned. At a certain point it becomes something beyond a simple desire, and is rather a basis of existence that transcends personal desire. You may be of a different opinion though and that is fine. Just an idea you can consider if you choose. It is worth mentioning however that Satan or YHWH, or Kal Niranjan still has to reincarnate, and so is no freer than any other Soul in that the lower aspects must still be dealt with in some way and learned from.<br /><br />Just a few points though I agree with everything concerning the Roman empire and the things it did to the early Judaism that Ioesus practiced and the various things that it became later, all of which were actually based on Zoroastrianism and contain elements of within (the other Abrahamic paths included). Reincarnation was certainly known to the Hebrews at the very least from the influence of the Silk Road and the cultural and religious effects of those who traveled it, but it was quite possible that Persians were at odds with the Indian religions for whatever reasons. Some theories hold that Buddha was actually a Persian as well, though that is not widely accepted as of yet.<br /><br />I find all of this of great interest!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02117385298912759260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-35071703165652659992020-10-24T10:04:29.565-06:002020-10-24T10:04:29.565-06:00Thank you so much!Thank you so much!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-44542362289258752722020-09-20T18:50:12.912-06:002020-09-20T18:50:12.912-06:00I've been researching for decades & trying...I've been researching for decades & trying to find similarities in Vaisnavism & Christianity. From Bhagavat Gita I've understood the concept of devil & hell are totally different from what the Bible teaches. The Bhagavat Gita is spoken by Sri Krsna, the Supreme personality of God.<br />head Himself. The eternal spiritual world is named Goloka Vrndavan. This is our original home.<br /><br />Sri Krsna has innumerable spiritual forms, such as Vishnu,Ramachunder, Nrshinga, Kapila etc.<br /><br />Brahma, Saraswathie, indra Kuvera & many others are demigods who are entrusted with universal administrative duties. Therefore they are fallible,just like humans. Yamaraja is not Satan, neither is Shiva. Yamaraj is the superintendent of death. After death, the "very sinful" souls go to him for punishment & rebirth. There are 28 hellish planets. The maximum time duration for punishment in each hellish planet is only six minutes of Yamaraj's time ( 36 hours of earthly time) AFTER due punishment, another physical body is given to the soul to continue life ACCORDING TO THE SOUL'S DESIRE.<br />The moment the soul desires to turn his attention to his master( God) then THE Lord as supersoul within his heart guides him on his journey back home(Goloka Vrndavan)<br /><br />The creation of Satan, including an eternal hell, makes no sense. Why would an all loving God, create innocent souls & then burn them for eternity just because they've not surrendered to him. Even a pious atheist is condemned to eternal hellfire. This is foolosophy not philosophy.<br /><br />It's important to know that Satan & hellfire has REPLACED THE TEACHINGS OF REINCARNATION after it was banned by emperor Justinian 553 after Jesus left the planet.<br />This has shattered much of Jesus's teachings. Whatever was accepted and practiced as Christianity ceased to exist after the council of nicea & many other councils that changed the Bible to suit the needs of the church & the politicians.<br />How much knowledge can be obtained from a book that has 31102 verses & 50000 errors, and followered by 45000 different denominations. <br /><br /><br /><br />jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15811850346456483241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-48766398879313654112020-06-09T02:34:05.172-06:002020-06-09T02:34:05.172-06:00If you can keep it secret and help others as you w...If you can keep it secret and help others as you will be helped, you will live long! Grandmaster China calling....no whatsapp just call or text and you will be told what to do +8613701312434/worldking1981@gmail.com.<br />BlackExcellence1famhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944256643239968647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-68699644463709226362017-06-19T19:12:08.960-06:002017-06-19T19:12:08.960-06:00I have yet to determine whether Abraham & Sara...I have yet to determine whether Abraham & Sarah are a multiform or are Avatars of Brahma & Saraswati or otherwise. Regardless, I believe them important players in a discursive play of "to be or not to be?" as shown by the "A" at the beginning of Abraham's name, i.e., Abrahman ("not-God" in Sanskrit). It seems not unlikely their tribe had a conflict with Abraham's tribe, else that Moses decided to represent it as such. Regardless, I definitely believe the Abrahamic (Abrahmanical) religions offer at least a rhetorical challenge to the established notion of Brahman...perhaps as a better sort of dualistic construction than might manifest otherwise in this Dark Age known as the Kali Yuga. I.e., "Of we're going to play binary games in this age, let's make the either/or a debate in which both 'sides' are constructed in a way that promotes dharma, like Hinduism (which touts brahman) and Buddhism (which generally touts Abrahman) both promote dharma.<br />NamasteJeffrey Charles Archerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01838766714000350169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-826995415247856452017-06-16T20:03:32.430-06:002017-06-16T20:03:32.430-06:00I am wondering, in the context of what you've ...I am wondering, in the context of what you've said here, if you have ever considered the similarities between Brahma and his wife Saraswati, and Abraham and his wife Sarah? I have seen some say that the 4 are the same individuals. I study many of the world's religions and am well acquainted with Sanatana Dharma and its derivatives and because of that I am very much on board with your conclusions stated here and find them not at all fantastical nor irrelevant or unlikely. If one looks at Indian religions one finds that they often have a cosmology or plane structure that begins in the physical and the worlds of duality and go up to the Bliss Plane or where the Atman exists undiluted and without duality, in much the same way that Sant Mat or Sikhism looks at things. If one looks at YHWH, the angry god of the Old Testament, it becomes obvious that he is not the Eternal, but has rather human like emotional states, being angry or even jealous at many instances in the Bible. If one looks at Kabballah, they list the Demiurge which is less than the Creator God, as being Satan or the Negative Principal. If YHWH is bound by so many lesser emotional states, then he himself is the Demiurge, or Satan and not God Itself, which I think is very similar to the way you have written things in this piece. Sat Naam in Sikhism or Anami in Sant Mat are both names for the non dual Godhead beyond the dualistic divisions in the planes, thus is the actual Godhead. From your writings here I have to say that I agree although I arrived at my view entirely on my own, I think I arrived at the same place you spoke of. Well said~!Jon Thorpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15574461125797840260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-27507444525139242422017-05-30T20:37:40.243-06:002017-05-30T20:37:40.243-06:00Certainly. Feel free to do so Rogelio. Namaste.Certainly. Feel free to do so Rogelio. Namaste.Jeffrey Charles Archerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01838766714000350169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-47638349025437119742017-05-30T19:52:20.797-06:002017-05-30T19:52:20.797-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeffrey Charles Archerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01838766714000350169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547833004368962230.post-63966521556803906222017-05-28T19:34:35.350-06:002017-05-28T19:34:35.350-06:00Very good disertación, is there any way I can post...Very good disertación, is there any way I can post it in my Facebook page?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10390423455787262622noreply@blogger.com